Back Mobile Antennas and Tuners...
Compiled and HTML'd by Mike Morris WA6ILQ

A few tips and tricks:

  1. Solid center conductor coax is a bad idea on a mobile antenna (especially on something that moves, like a trunk lid). Yes, it seems obvious, but you'd be surprised...

  2. Punch-mounts are 20 times better than clamp-on-the-edge-of-the-trunk-lid mounts and 50 times better than magnetic mounts. I've yet to see a mag mount that supplies a decent ground plane. HOWEVER - mag mounts are better than nothing - and are much better if you screw a 1/2 wave antenna onto it - something intended for a zero-ground-plane installation (like what would be on a fiberglass ambulance roof or a motorcycle saddle bag or a Corvette rear deck). There are good oes out there, I've used Larsen and a friend loves Tram (the model 1155 is VHF, the 1175B is UHF).

  3. A couple of tips about cutting the rods on mobile antennas.
    • Quality mobile antennas use hard stainless steel rod for the elements. You will have a difficult time cutting the stainless with common wire cutters made for copper wire because the rod is as hard as the tool (if not harder). If you do succeed in cutting it you will probably damage the jaws... or the hinge, or both. As a practical alternative the Ridgid S14 (the smallest size) of bolt cutter will work just fine, then a flat file to remove any sharp burr.

    • One good alternative is to use the corner of a triangular file to groove the rod at the point where you want to cut it and then:
      a) Use a carbide rod saw in a hacksaw frame to actually cut the rod.
      b) Groove the rod all the way around about 1/3 of the way through. Then use two pairs of Vise-Grip pliers (or a single pair of Vise-Grips and a bench vise) with one set of jaws on one side of the cut and the other set of jaws on the other side of the cut.
      You should then be able to bend and snap the rod at the point where you scored it.
      Finish the job with a coarse file or a grinding wheel (carefully!) to dress the sharp edge at the break.

    • Another alternative is a small power tool (like a Dremel) with a small abrasive cut-off wheel. Harbor Freight has a chinese clone of a Dremel at a decent price (and they also sell all of the tools - like the cutoff wheels- for them). If you have a real Dremel you can at save a few dollars with the HF cutoff wheels.

    • If you purchase a black Larsen whip please keep in mind that the black coating they use is a soft plastic applied by dipping the rod in the liquid color dip. CAREFULLY cut the rod using the technique above AND be careful to not damage the copper plating under the plastic. Once you have cut the rod take off about 3/8 of an inch of the black coating in order to insure that you get good contact with the antenna mount. Be careful to remove just the black plastic coating and no more (this is the voice of experience talking!). You will find that just under that plastic coating is a thin copper plating layer on top of the steel rod. The copper is a much better conductor than the steel and is the primary radiator! Just take off the plastic and then insert the whip back into the base and tighten the setscrew into the copper plating.

  4. Another tip: The US dollar bill is the same length as a 440-450 MHz whip antenna.

  5. Glass mount antennas were an interesting idea, and somewhat worked, but no longer work today. All of the car and truck manufacturers now use a metalized glass to cut down the solar heating inside the vehicle interiors. That metalization does a good job of shielding and that kills the RF. Operating a HT from inside your car used to be about -3db to -6db in the plain glass days, now it's like -10db worse.

  6. Yet another tip: Look at this photo. Notice anything unusual? Like the thickness of the antenna rod? It's not too well known but the diameter of the radiating element has a distinct effect on the bandwidth of the antenna. When you make the element fatter it decreases the resonant frequency, meaning that you end up making it shorter to compensate. The end result is that it is little more broadbanded. Due to the thickness of the rod the left antenna presents a SWR that is less than 2.5 to 1 from 442 MHz up through 467 MHz (i.e. from the repeater section of the UHF ham band all the way up through GMRS)... and by the way it's a home-built antenna. The right hand antenna in the photo is a stock 460 MHz whip (i.e. GMRS) from Larsen.

  7. And one more point: Let's say that you have a two meter 5/8 wave antenna with a standard flexible whip. That's about four feet (1.2 meters) of radiating element. At 60 MPH (95 KM/H) the wind bends back the top foot of that whip to almost horizontal while the bottom foot is vertical. What kind of a pattern does that give you? I switched my 2m mobile radio to a center-loaded dual band whip with a fairly stiff rod about a year ago. My signal flutter was reduced by over 50%...

  8. Check out the The KØBG web site link on the previous page. You can spend hours there learning about mobile installs, including antennas.

  9. Mobile disguise antennas are a compromise. One trick that a local police department did for the undercover cars was to mount the license plate on thicker-than-normal plastic mounts, and feed it as the raidiating element with the car body as the ground plane. The UHF Micor was the radio of choice as they had a circulator as part of the transmitter and that prevented the horrible SWR from destroying the final transistors.
    Another trick is to rebuild the existing vertical rod car radio antenna to be a mobile radio antenna. A company called Sti-Co Industries turned that idea into a business and is still in operation today in New York at 716-662-2680 or at sti-co.com. They call them "covert antennas". A diplexer (UHF or VHF and FM broadcast) or triplexer (UHF or VHF / FM / AM) allows simultaneous operation of the 2-way radio and the broadcast radio.
    Cars that don't have a vertical rod antenna can use a horizontal dipole inside the front or rear vinyl bumper shell but the soild metal bumper that is a few inches away on the other side of the foam block causes SWR and directional problems.
    Another trick is to position a whip antenna inside the radiator grille - but some cars don't have a lot of room there, plus it can be very directional becasue the air conditioning condenser acts like a reflector.

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